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You've spoken a lot about taking your lead from the fans – if they're happy with this as an ending, you are too, and if not then you'll keep pushing for more. How do you feel having seen the reaction to the finale?

It's interesting, because a lot of people were very content. The feedback has been that they're satisfied, and if it came back around in another form they would watch, but they feel like the story had an ending for them. As always, I'll wait and see how the fates decide if Martha's able to raise money for a film – I'm waiting for instructions from above.

The way [the series] ended, I'm hoping that we're in a place where it could lie fallow for a year or two, and then we could return to the story in some unexpected way if there was appetite for it. Right now, it seems that everyone is willing to let it lie for the time being.

你说过很多次要跟随粉丝意愿——如果他们对这样一个结局表示满意,那么你也会满意,不然的话你就会继续争取更多。现在你已经看到他们对季终的反应了,你有什么想法?

很有意思,因为许多人都表示十分满足。目前的反馈显示他们很满意,如果这个剧用另一种形式回归的话他们会看下去,但他们觉得这个故事已经给了他们一个结局。而我会一如既往地看着命运是否会让玛莎成功地为电影筹到资金——我在等待着上天的指示。

我希望这个完结方式能让它处于休耕模式一到两年,然后如果观众有这个胃口,我们会用某种意想不到的方式再开。目前看来大家都愿意让它保持现状。


Has anything about the reaction to the finale surprised you?

I was surprised that everybody, or at least a faction of the audience, assumed that Bedelia chopped off her own leg and was cooking it! [laughs] For me, that was: Hannibal survived. The whole point of that tag is to suggest that Hannibal has lived, and there's three place settings at the dinner table, so interpret that how you will.

有什么对季终的反馈让你吃惊了吗?

让我惊讶的是大家——或者至少是一部分的观众,都认为是比迪丽娅自己砍了大腿然后烹饪了它!(笑)对我来说,它就是:汉尼拔活下来了。那个片段的全部意义就是暗示汉尼拔还活着,然后桌上还有三套餐具,这个你可以自由理解。


Are there any more clues in the episode as to how Hannibal and Will could have survived that fall? Anything around the house, the cliffs?

Well, the house being so relatively well-preserved, and well dusted, suggested that perhaps Chiyoh had been living there since we last saw her in episode seven. I did debate whether to involve her in the finale, but it felt like it needed to be between these three men. 

那一集里还有什么其他提示告诉我们汉尼拔和威尔是怎么从坠崖生还了的吗?房屋周围?悬崖周围?

嗯,那幢房屋基本上被保养、扫除的不错,暗示着或许千代在第七集之后就一直住在哪里。我是考虑过是否将她加入最后一集,不过觉得这一幕还是需要保持在这三个男人之间。


You've mentioned some footage where Mads and Hugh went a little further with their final embrace than what we saw in the episode - "lips lingering over lips"?

Yeah, it was funny because I saw them just after they filmed it, and they both came running up to me kind of excited about what they had done. And Mads in particular was really enthusiastic about the level of intimacy that was conveyed on screen! 

你提到过在某些拍摄片段里,麦兹和休演得比我们看到的那个拥抱还要更深入一点——“嘴唇在嘴唇上徘徊”?

是的,搞笑的是我见到他俩时正好是拍摄完毕的时候,然后他俩都向我跑来,为之前的演出表示兴奋。尤其是麦兹,在屏幕上展现那种程度的亲昵让他十分兴高采烈!


Do you have any plans to make that footage available?

Yeah, I should talk to the post people and pull some of those shots together - maybe that is something I should talk to the DVD producers about including as an extra.

你有打算放出这些片段吗?

是的,我应该去跟后期组的人说说,把其中一些片段整理出来——或许我应该跟DVD的制作人们谈谈,把它作为花絮加进去。


I'm going to go out on a limb and say that would go down well…

So to speak!

那我就赌上一条腿说这会一帆风顺的……

可以这么说!


At what point did you decide to take Will and Hannibal's romance from subtext into text? Was that always the plan from season one?

No, it naturally evolved because I guess I was absorbing so much of Mads and Hugh's performance, which felt like it was growing in intimacy, and it would have been inauthentic not to address it. Because all of these characters, and particularly Bedelia, was able to call out what she had witnessed [between Hannibal and Will], it seemed like a natural conclusion.

I remember when I turned in the rewrite pages where Will asks Bedelia if Hannibal is in love with him, I got a note from Don Mancini, one of our writers who was always pushing for more homosexual text – not just context or subtext but text, text, text – and he was like, "I'm so glad you put that in there! They said it! They said it!"

I was a little surprised by how excited he was because it just felt organic to me, so I guess I had been fooling myself about how obvious that element of the story was. Maybe I had been reacting to the feedback in the Twitterverse, where there was a lot of Hannigram wish fulfilment. I hoped that it wouldn't be interpreted as pandering to the hardcore Hannigram fanbase, and that it was felt to be an authentic, logical extension of everything we'd been doing thus far. 

你是何时决定把汉尼拔和威尔的恋情从暗示转到台面上来的?从第一季开始就是如此计划的吗?

不是的,它很自然地就演变了。因为我想我很大程度地汲取了麦兹和休的表演,而我感觉其中的亲暱程度是与日俱增的。若是对此毫无表示的话就会显得不真实了。因为所有其他这些角色们,尤其是比迪丽娅,都能够直接说出他们从[汉尼拔和威尔之间]所观察到的东西,貌似这是个自然的结论。

我记得当我把威尔问比迪丽娅汉尼拔是否爱他的那一幕改写好交上去之后,Don Mancini,剧本组里的一位始终致力于在剧中加入更多直白的——不是隐晦的、不是暗示的,而是直白、直白、直白的——同性爱成分的成员给我留了条评论。他说:“真高兴你终于把它写出来了!他们终于说了!他们终于说了!”

他那么兴奋让我有点意外,因为我觉得这才是自然的。因此我想我一直以来都在自欺欺人,没看到故事里的这个元素有多么明显。或许我总是在对推特上的反馈作出回应,而那里有很多实现了hannigram愿望的东西。我希望在铁杆汉尼拔粉丝的眼里这不会被看作是一种怂恿,而是我们至今所作的一切的一种真实的、符合逻辑的延伸。


It definitely was. Another element of that was how you began to amalgamate Will into Clarice Starling's role from the canon, with a lot of the dialogue and visuals…

Absolutely. I still would like to tell the story of Clarice Starling in this universe, and so I didn't want to rob Clarice to pay Will, but I also felt that there was a lot of things that could be done with Clarice to distinguish herself from Will, in that romantic regard. Clarice never, until the end of Hannibal, submitted to that romance, whereas Will seemed to be on a slippery slope right from the beginning, so there's a contrast to be drawn between them.

事实也确实如此。其中的另一个元素体现在你逐渐把威尔融进原作里克拉丽丝的位置中,在大量对话和场景的帮助下…

完全正确。我仍然想要在这个宇宙中讲述克拉丽斯的故事,所以我并不想干拆东墙补西墙的事,但我同时也觉得有很多办法能让克拉丽丝和威尔区别开来,在感情方面。直到电影《汉尼拔》的结尾,克拉丽丝才对那段感情低头,而威尔却从一开始就渐渐陷入泥沼了,所以说他们两个之间是有对比的。

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